On today’s episode we have our friends Alex Jamieson and Bob Gower joining us to talk about their new book, Getting to Hell Yes.
Alex Jamieson is a successful mentor and life & health coach for creative professional women who want it all. She’s also the bestselling author of Women, Food, and Desire as well as the co-creator and co-star of the Oscar-nominated documentary, Super Size Me.
Bob Gower helps organizations move faster, create better products, and become happier, more engaging places to work. He is an authority on agile software development, lean theory, and responsive organizational design, and he has advised leaders at numerous top companies. Bob is also the author of Agile Business and speaks regularly on organizational development and leadership.
The conversation we’re having today is about a framework that Bob and Alex have created together called “ICBD” (which stands for Intentions, Concerns, Boundaries, and Dreams or Desires). This framework is used when having difficult or high-stakes conversations, and it’s something we’ve already tried in our own lives. You’re going to hear how it can be used in conversations with your children, in your marriage, community work, business, and more!
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In This Episode
- What is “ICBD” and the reason they wrote the book [8:04]
- The process they used to write it together [12:23]
- What the conversation is – and isn’t [19:44]
- A real-life example of an ICBD conversation [24:42]
- The gift of boundaries [34:54]
- How to use this framework to end the conversation [41:59]
- Why “Hell No” isn’t such a bad thing either [55:36]
- Where this process really came from [61:44]
Selected Links from the EpisodeGet on The Origin Waitlist!
Their New Book, Getting To Hell Yes
Perennial Seller by Ryan HolidayTrello Teamwork
The Art of Gathering by Priya Parker
Slow Sex by Nicole DaedoneEpisode 86: Rachel Cargle: Unpacking White Feminism
Never Split the Difference by Christopher Voss and Tahl Raz
Getting to Yes by William Ury
People MentionedDavid D’Angelo Laura Garnett