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Episode 194: How (and Why) to Love Your Opponent with Valarie Kaur, author of See No Stranger

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Last night I sat on my couch, cheeks still wet from tears, soaked in the bittersweet moment of feeling sad that I was closing the cover of a book I’d just finished and that I was deeply moved by.

I both wanted there to be more to read and also felt so totally satisfied and changed by the experience of taking it in.

We’re 3 months away from the 2020 United States Presidential Election.

An election in the midst of a pandemic and racial justice awakening is an even bigger deal than your average election.

And so, here we are, entering a season of even more intensity.

Why am I talking about the election?

Because the book I finished last night is the manual for how we can come together as humans to heal in what is the most divisive time I’ve ever lived through (though I know that historically there have been more divisive times).

4 years ago, just before the presidential election of 2016, I sat in a huge auditorium in Brooklyn holding a dear friend’s hand and weeping as we listened to the author of this book offer her son’s birth story as a metaphor for the intense time we were navigating then.

She asked, “What if this darkness is not the darkness of the tomb, but the darkness of the womb? What if America is not dead, but a country that is waiting to be born?”

We passed tissues up and down the aisle to people we didn’t know, yet who were not strangers.

Valarie Kaur’s practice of Revolutionary Love is the blueprint we need to heal as a nation and as a world.

As hate crimes, xenophobia, white nationalism, and other symptoms of fear increase, now more than ever we need a new roadmap…one guided not only by love but also by the body and joy.

This week we’re sharing a new episode of The Kate & Mike Show, featuring activist, scholar, and bestselling author Valarie Kaur, and in it you’ll hear:

How (and Why) to Love Your Opponent with Valarie Kaur, author of See No Stranger

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Breonna Taylor

George Floyd

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  • Anonymous says:

    In reference to episode 194. I have much respect for you and your work and your mother – I have to say I am very surprised at what you believe the source of the racial injustice stems from and what perpetuates it. I would strongly urge you to research what and who is truly behind the divisiveness in our country and where it began – evil always shines the light on something to take it off itself. The evil behind what rules not only this nation but the world is beyond what many can even begin to fathom. It does not begin at who the current POTUS is. I would suggest you also research what President Trump has done to bring down the evil of child sex and human trafficking and drug cartels and corporate leaders and criminal corrupt politicians who have been behind the racial unrest and how it has profited them and how it fits their narrative to continue the focus on racial injustice so as to take the attention off the evil they have flourished in for decades. ( and how it ties into what is going on in our nation ) I would also suggest doing research into what the true basis was for the George Floyd death. It is tiring to see how people are so blinded by what narrative is pushed. This isn’t about a Republican or Democratic issue. It is between good and evil and as I stated before – evil ALWAYS directs the attention somewhere else so as to take the spotlight over what is truly taking place.

    • Kate Northrup says:

      Thanks for your thoughts. I have many people and sources of information in my life that are on all sides of this conversation. There’s a lot of grey area. Please trust that I’m listening and learning in a holistic way and will continue to share the best of what I find to move us ever toward love and liberation.

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